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	<title>Comentaris a: Dell sells Ubuntu boxes that cannot run Ubuntu</title>
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		<title>Per: bitsenbloc &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Poulsbo driver sucks</title>
		<link>http://bits.quintanasegui.com/2008/12/30/dell-sells-ubuntu-boxes-that-cannot-run-ubuntu/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bitsenbloc &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Poulsbo driver sucks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] poulsbo driver in Ubuntu 9.04. Thus, I&#8217;ll have to continue using my Dell Mini 12 with the shitiest version of Ubuntu I&#8217;ve ever used. Canonical, Dell and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] poulsbo driver in Ubuntu 9.04. Thus, I&#8217;ll have to continue using my Dell Mini 12 with the shitiest version of Ubuntu I&#8217;ve ever used. Canonical, Dell and [...]</p>
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		<title>Per: pqs</title>
		<link>http://bits.quintanasegui.com/2008/12/30/dell-sells-ubuntu-boxes-that-cannot-run-ubuntu/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pqs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe... Ubuntu 9.04 does not work neither.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe&#8230; Ubuntu 9.04 does not work neither.</p>
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		<title>Per: John</title>
		<link>http://bits.quintanasegui.com/2008/12/30/dell-sells-ubuntu-boxes-that-cannot-run-ubuntu/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes I think this most be a conspiracy. Dell&#039;s ubuntu mini sucks, Acer ship crippled redhat in the form of Linpus, and then neither of them roll their drivers or updates into the main distros so it is still a hassel to change to anything else.
Does anyone else think that MS said, &quot;sure, we&#039;ll let you sell a linux based machine, but it had better suck or you wont get your cheap windows licenses anymore!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I think this most be a conspiracy. Dell&#8217;s ubuntu mini sucks, Acer ship crippled redhat in the form of Linpus, and then neither of them roll their drivers or updates into the main distros so it is still a hassel to change to anything else.<br />
Does anyone else think that MS said, &#8220;sure, we&#8217;ll let you sell a linux based machine, but it had better suck or you wont get your cheap windows licenses anymore!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Per: Paul</title>
		<link>http://bits.quintanasegui.com/2008/12/30/dell-sells-ubuntu-boxes-that-cannot-run-ubuntu/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as far as I understand the problem is the relatively new chipset poulsbo.
correct working drivers or sources are rare.
actually intel supports linux red hat, one can download a rpm.

if one uses a different distro he runs into more or less trouble.

the actual workarround is to use the vesa driver and try to modify xorg.conf to get the native resolution working.

or start again messing around with this windows stuff that stops working after a while, I agree to one above.

so far or use dells distro.
it is working and has DVD support build in if the above mentioned is correct.

looking forward to my m12
;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as far as I understand the problem is the relatively new chipset poulsbo.<br />
correct working drivers or sources are rare.<br />
actually intel supports linux red hat, one can download a rpm.</p>
<p>if one uses a different distro he runs into more or less trouble.</p>
<p>the actual workarround is to use the vesa driver and try to modify xorg.conf to get the native resolution working.</p>
<p>or start again messing around with this windows stuff that stops working after a while, I agree to one above.</p>
<p>so far or use dells distro.<br />
it is working and has DVD support build in if the above mentioned is correct.</p>
<p>looking forward to my m12 <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Per: Raulsinho</title>
		<link>http://bits.quintanasegui.com/2008/12/30/dell-sells-ubuntu-boxes-that-cannot-run-ubuntu/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raulsinho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Kyle, I know about you because of that Ubuntu Thread that I have read before. I also know that you (and the rest of people in the forum) are doing a huge job (33 pages right now !) but I desagree with the coment by &quot;naidu01&quot; that says: &quot;But some folks don&#039;t like the Dell version of ubuntu,[...] &quot; because that is not the ONLY question. If you read carefully my previous post you will notice that there is a big issue with resizing Dell&#039;s Ubuntu partition. In fact, seems that it is no possible. At least for me. If you or someone else know how to resize please let us know so we could make coexist Ubuntu + &quot;any other O.S.&quot;. Meanwhile I will have to keep my Dell mini 12 with the actual configuration: XP + Debian Testing_Vesa_drivers.... and hope that in the near future Poulsbo driver will be packaged and work in any linux distro.  My eyes will be grateful for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kyle, I know about you because of that Ubuntu Thread that I have read before. I also know that you (and the rest of people in the forum) are doing a huge job (33 pages right now !) but I desagree with the coment by &#8220;naidu01&#8243; that says: &#8220;But some folks don&#8217;t like the Dell version of ubuntu,[...] &#8221; because that is not the ONLY question. If you read carefully my previous post you will notice that there is a big issue with resizing Dell&#8217;s Ubuntu partition. In fact, seems that it is no possible. At least for me. If you or someone else know how to resize please let us know so we could make coexist Ubuntu + &#8220;any other O.S.&#8221;. Meanwhile I will have to keep my Dell mini 12 with the actual configuration: XP + Debian Testing_Vesa_drivers&#8230;. and hope that in the near future Poulsbo driver will be packaged and work in any linux distro.  My eyes will be grateful for that.</p>
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		<title>Per: Kyle Cronan</title>
		<link>http://bits.quintanasegui.com/2008/12/30/dell-sells-ubuntu-boxes-that-cannot-run-ubuntu/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle Cronan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can check this thread on ubuntuforums for the lowdown on this:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6763758

pgs, I recommend that since you have the dell disc, you use it to restore Belmont onto your Mini 12 (I believe there may be a recovery partition that does the same?).  Then just switch to the standard Ubuntu desktop and remove the packages that Dell includes that annoy you.  You can then add some additional lpia deb sources if you like, eg, netbook-remix.archive.canonical.com.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can check this thread on ubuntuforums for the lowdown on this:</p>
<p><a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6763758" rel="nofollow">http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6763758</a></p>
<p>pgs, I recommend that since you have the dell disc, you use it to restore Belmont onto your Mini 12 (I believe there may be a recovery partition that does the same?).  Then just switch to the standard Ubuntu desktop and remove the packages that Dell includes that annoy you.  You can then add some additional lpia deb sources if you like, eg, netbook-remix.archive.canonical.com.</p>
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		<title>Per: Raulsinho</title>
		<link>http://bits.quintanasegui.com/2008/12/30/dell-sells-ubuntu-boxes-that-cannot-run-ubuntu/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raulsinho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This replay goes specially to stlouisubntu &amp; Alex Chejlyk.: What about the right of people to host more than one operating system in their computer?. I just NEED windows for one stupid program like &quot;Visual Basic&quot; so I should have the right to shrink the 40 Gb HD of _MY_COMPUTER_. Dell&#039;s guys decided to install a linux flavour  that cannot be resized with Parted or Gparted. That&#039;s &quot;Really Bizarre&quot;. So my first option that was to make &quot;coexist&quot; Windows &amp; Dell&#039;s Ubuntu (or Ubuntu&#039;s Dell) is not possible.
So I wonder: Who are Dell people to choose &quot;what&quot; can I put besides my Ubuntu. That&#039;s the big issue for me. I am pretty convinced that in a couple of years there will be no problem to install a fresh Ubuntu 11.04 &quot;Crazy Cow&quot; in my Dell Mini 12 but for now it seems that the only distro working fine is the pseudo-proprietary Dell&#039;s-Ubuntu... wich I cannot use because of the &quot;non-partitioning-problem&quot; issue. For more on the problem with Poulsbo chipset read:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=NzAyOQ

and

http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/01/30/intel-gma-500-poulsbo-graphics-on-linux-a-precise-and-comprehensive-summary-as-to-why-youre-screwed/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This replay goes specially to stlouisubntu &amp; Alex Chejlyk.: What about the right of people to host more than one operating system in their computer?. I just NEED windows for one stupid program like &#8220;Visual Basic&#8221; so I should have the right to shrink the 40 Gb HD of _MY_COMPUTER_. Dell&#8217;s guys decided to install a linux flavour  that cannot be resized with Parted or Gparted. That&#8217;s &#8220;Really Bizarre&#8221;. So my first option that was to make &#8220;coexist&#8221; Windows &amp; Dell&#8217;s Ubuntu (or Ubuntu&#8217;s Dell) is not possible.<br />
So I wonder: Who are Dell people to choose &#8220;what&#8221; can I put besides my Ubuntu. That&#8217;s the big issue for me. I am pretty convinced that in a couple of years there will be no problem to install a fresh Ubuntu 11.04 &#8220;Crazy Cow&#8221; in my Dell Mini 12 but for now it seems that the only distro working fine is the pseudo-proprietary Dell&#8217;s-Ubuntu&#8230; wich I cannot use because of the &#8220;non-partitioning-problem&#8221; issue. For more on the problem with Poulsbo chipset read:<br />
<a href="http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&#038;px=NzAyOQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&#038;px=NzAyOQ</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><a href="http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/01/30/intel-gma-500-poulsbo-graphics-on-linux-a-precise-and-comprehensive-summary-as-to-why-youre-screwed/" rel="nofollow">http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/01/30/intel-gma-500-poulsbo-graphics-on-linux-a-precise-and-comprehensive-summary-as-to-why-youre-screwed/</a></p>
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		<title>Per: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I meant if you don&#039;t want them uninstall them.  oops]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant if you don&#8217;t want them uninstall them.  oops</p>
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		<title>Per: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://bits.quintanasegui.com/2008/12/30/dell-sells-ubuntu-boxes-that-cannot-run-ubuntu/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They must ship the mini 12 with a different version than the mini 9 because mine said free to distribute.  What exactly was wrong with the customized version of ubuntu shipped with it.  It seemed like none of the issues listed required a reinstallation.  Yahoo toolbar can be switched off, you can switch to the classic desktop in one click, and the full of shit part are applications which are all part of the standard ubuntu repos.  If you don&#039;t want them then don&#039;t install them.  Overall I have had very few issues with the standard dell interface and have found it very enjoyable on my mini 9.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They must ship the mini 12 with a different version than the mini 9 because mine said free to distribute.  What exactly was wrong with the customized version of ubuntu shipped with it.  It seemed like none of the issues listed required a reinstallation.  Yahoo toolbar can be switched off, you can switch to the classic desktop in one click, and the full of shit part are applications which are all part of the standard ubuntu repos.  If you don&#8217;t want them then don&#8217;t install them.  Overall I have had very few issues with the standard dell interface and have found it very enjoyable on my mini 9.</p>
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		<title>Per: DellsAreForSuckers</title>
		<link>http://bits.quintanasegui.com/2008/12/30/dell-sells-ubuntu-boxes-that-cannot-run-ubuntu/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DellsAreForSuckers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Srsly.

If you buy a Dell then you deserve the piece of crap that you get.

Dell uses the cheapest possible components in all of their machines.

Having installed thousands of Dells in hundreds of schools, I can tell you that they have always been crap and still are.

People are just suckers for marketing.

Oh well. At least it wasn&#039;t a Mac.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Srsly.</p>
<p>If you buy a Dell then you deserve the piece of crap that you get.</p>
<p>Dell uses the cheapest possible components in all of their machines.</p>
<p>Having installed thousands of Dells in hundreds of schools, I can tell you that they have always been crap and still are.</p>
<p>People are just suckers for marketing.</p>
<p>Oh well. At least it wasn&#8217;t a Mac.</p>
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